TP2 or Motorola DROID

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haha. well you see I was with verizon...UNTIL I got promoted to a Supervisor/Manger thing when I worked at Bestbuy. And all Sups and managers will eligible for the Sprint Corporate discount for $27.99 For:
-Unlimited Texts and Pic Messages
-3000 Week Min./ 1000 Night and Weekend Minutes
-$20 a Month In free downloads
-Unlimited Data Usage
- And some other good stuff..

My bill each month is like $33. For ALL OF THAT! Don't get me wrong I want Verizon's coverage. But here is the deal. The discount that our store gets BLOWS! And I cant even keep my phone number say if I put the discount on it, I cannot port it out back to a personal plan. If it goes on the discount plan I lose it for good. And I don't want to do that.

Are you not working for Sprint anymore?

But that is the reason that I don't go with Verizon...Plus they are freakin' expensive in general. I mean I still have a %20 discount also from when I was at Best Buy, but sprints everything plan is still so amazingly cheap!...

word makes sense than and naw hasvent worked for sprint for a while now..... had to move back home to take care of the moms.

[oracle646]

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word makes sense than and naw hasvent worked for sprint for a while now..... had to move back home to take care of the moms.

That's legit. I can respect that.

I tell you what lol. I am the manager at our verizon store here in town. If you want to move here and take over you are good to do so! lol I will put in a good wordfor you!

I will be living in like 5 months or what not to move back home.....soooooo if you want it you go it.

I mean you know cell phones at least kind of good right? That is some what of a requirement lol..

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That's legit. I can respect that.

I tell you what lol. I am the manager at our verizon store here in town. If you want to move here and take over you are good to do so! lol I will put in a good wordfor you!

I will be living in like 5 months or what not to move back home.....soooooo if you want it you go it.

I mean you know cell phones at least kind of good right? That is some what of a requirement lol..

hahaha not sure if i could go to oregon lmao i would hate being at the college of arguably the biggest flop of a qb besides leaf for my lions when they chose harrington hahahha, if it wasnt so far and on the west coast i would def be down for that if it would work that way and yes i feel pretty confident that i know phones hahha

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hahaha not sure if i could go to oregon lmao i would hate being at the college of arguably the biggest flop of a qb besides leaf for my lions when they chose harrington hahahha, if it wasnt so far and on the west coast i would def be down for that if it would work that way and yes i feel pretty confident that i know phones hahha

I hear ya man...when good ole' Joey came out of UO I was all excited and then blahhh. haha

But I am like a few hours from there though.. PLUS I am from Idaho...Boise basically soooo I am a BSU fan...which as of right now and the last 5 years has owned Oregon and Oregon state. Which knowing that and being a BSU fan and living here is AWSOME haha...If I have my Boise State sweater on and some dude has an Oregon hat on, he just stares and me, and me knowing he already doesn't like me for what I am wearing and whom I like......which I love lol.....

But any how..If you do want to take this thing on down here. Just let me know. I might have to kind of go over the PDA/Smartphones with ya at first, but something tells me you can catch on fast...hell maybe even teach me a few things! ;) haha

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I hear ya man...when good ole' Joey came out of UO I was all excited and then blahhh. haha

But I am like a few hours from there though.. PLUS I am from Idaho...Boise basically soooo I am a BSU fan...which as of right now and the last 5 years has owned Oregon and Oregon state. Which knowing that and being a BSU fan and living here is AWSOME haha...If I have my Boise State sweater on and some dude has an Oregon hat on, he just stares and me, and me knowing he already doesn't like me for what I am wearing and whom I like......which I love lol.....

But any how..If you do want to take this thing on down here. Just let me know. I might have to kind of go over the PDA/Smartphones with ya at first, but something tells me you can catch on fast...hell maybe even teach me a few things! ;) haha

hahaha for sure i think the only way that i could ever do that would be if the benefits were good sicne i cant leave good benefits at the hospital doing security if not.. thanks again for looking out.

[oracle646]

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No doubt. I hear ya with the benefits thing...here they are not as good as a Hospital for sure. But It is all I had to offer lol...You have taken care of me here, figure I would offer what little I have to offer lol.

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No doubt. I hear ya with the benefits thing...here they are not as good as a Hospital for sure. But It is all I had to offer lol...You have taken care of me here, figure I would offer what little I have to offer lol.

and is much appreciated thanks brudda :)

[CrAshTaH]

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I've got the touch pro 2 for now, but man I've got serious envy of google navigation. That alone makes me want to make the switch to android.

[bubbleflubber]

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Hey guys,

I don't know if it's worth anything or not, but I was wrestling very heavily with the same issue. I've loved my original Touch Pro, and appreciated all of the things I could tweak in WinMo. I consider myself a "power user" and utilize a bunch of small business features that WinMo fulfills well.

That being said, I thought when I re-upped my contract, the TP2 was a foregone conclusion. The keyboard was nice, dual mic/speaker, nice display, etc.

.... but honestly, when they opened up the Droid and let me play with it.... I couldn't, in good conscience buy the TP2.

The hardware provides for so much better a seamless user experience on the Droid vs. ANY WinMo phone I've played with (and there aren't many that I haven't). It rivals the iPhone, if not equivalent in my humble opinion.

The processor is so much, much faster than the TP2, and the screen is larger, with more pixel real-estate (the largest out there now). The keyboard is NOT, and I repeat NOT nearly as bad as many have stated. Once you become used to it, it's a non-issue. It also comes pre-loaded with a 16GB microSD card installed, and with the current firmware, can support a 32GB card natively. (This will, of course, change in the future, as larger capacities will fit on the microSD chipset. The firmware will assuredly update to accommodate those capacities as they develop.)

The physical phone packs better hardware, yet is still thinner than the TP2. One of the nicest things, for me, is the glass capacitive scratch-resistant touchscreen. Wow, honestly, wow. (Check YouTube for the "scratch-test", which it passes with marvelous results.)

Now, onto the firmware/software. I purchased with the newest 2.01 firmware update already installed. I can't compare it to the previous 2.0 version, but from my understanding, the camera is miles and miles ahead of where it was (takes very nice stable pics and DVD-quality widescreen native video.) As for the operating system, be guaranteed that you'll never ever have to pay for an OS upgrade again. Verizon is allowing for any and all future system upgrades to be sent over-the-air, or done in-store at no charge. Thus, when Android 2.1 comes out, you'll in effect have a brand new phone to play with, and so on.

Now, for the 2 things I can't do without.... first, the Google Search feature. Press the onscreen microphone and speak whatever your heart's content... it is pretty much the coolest thing I've ever seen a phone do. Not only will it open up a browser, but you get a huge load of choices... shopping, navigation, contact, phone, email, location, etc. Speaking of location, it uses BOTH simultaneous GPS and wireless location managers to provide lightning fast location locks (eons faster than HTC and WinMo has ever provided me).

Secondly, the onboard navigation is worth its weight in absolute gold. It provides me super-accurate results, equal or better than my Garmin or TomTom, as Google's maps are constantly updated. You can choose various points of view to the nav system, and it will provide real-time street views if you'd like to see if your surroundings match where you actually are. Again, the ultra-high crystal resolution really knocks your socks off when using it.

Now, as for a comparison to my WinMo experience. I have found, like I did when I made my computer switch from Windows to Mac, I didn't "have" to tweak everything.... it just "worked". That's much the way I feel about my transition from WinMo to the open-source (Linux-based) Android operation system. There's nothing to "learn"... it just works (by the way, the Unix kernel that powers Android is the same Unix kernel behind MacOS... stripped down, of course, just like Apple did with the iPhone). Everything, thus far on the Android Market (for applications) is very reminiscent to the Apple approach... seamless integration from app to app. I have literally kept 20 applications running simultaneously with only half of my RAM in usage. And for those who say that apps won't close, or always "have to" run in the background, this is not exactly true. Verizon themselves provide their users FREE access to a normally "paid" app to kill any app or process task. (It is provided under the 'Verizon' tab in the Android Market. Search for the same app openly on the market, and it is not free by design.)

Speaking of apps (and development), although there are only 10,000+ apps right now (in comparison to the touted 100,000 iPhone apps), the Droid is revolutionizing the development of such open-source platform apps, and that number is DRASTICALLY increasing. Most WinMo users complain that two of the best features with WinMo are not possible with Android. First, is the ability to create and share documents.... wrong, just wrong. Search the Market. Next is the inherent ability for tethering apps to use your phone as a router. Not only is the software app available, the prominent software to do so was just "downgraded" in price to FREE.

You have to also remember that from a marketing strategy, the Droid is the first REAL attempt for Verizon to do a 180-degree turn from their "lock every VZW phone down" approach. The only, and I mean ONLY thing from Verizon that comes on the Droid is Visual Voice Mail (which is absolutely incredible to never ever have to call your voicemail again.... it downloads the actual sound file to the phone and you can store or listen to it immediately... very neat). Verizon gave up a LOT of concessions to take on this phone. No preloaded Verizon crap at all, and the one app (Visual VM) is easily uninstallable if you should choose not to keep it.

All-in-all, the end user-experience is what I'm about. The Droid provides the absolute fastest, easiest and seamless experience to date for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm an HTC lover. I think they provide a wonderful array of phones, and they will answer the Droid in similar fashion. (They already provide the ERIS Droid, but it's no Moto Droid by any stretch of the imagination.) Personally, I think they made a very bad choice in providing pretty much the same hardware specs (with a different screen display) from the switch between the TP and the TP2.

And for those tweakers out there, I know flashing your phones with custom ROMS is a reliable, if not necessary capability for the user. Well, HTC and WinMo are not the only ones out there now.... you can flash most WinMo HTC phones, you can jailbreak your iPhone.... and now, the exploit has been found to delve under the hood of the Droid... so that means yes, custom ROM's are possible, plausible and inevitable for the Moto Droid.

But then again, I understand doing that on WinMo... I did it myself (many, many times). But if you don't have to, why fix something that isn't broken?

Sorry if I came off as a Droid fanboy. I'm really not. I'm just comparing my experience with the phones, and the reason that the Droid was the clear-cut winner in my opinion. You won't go wrong with a TP2, but you'd be well-served to check out an updated Droid and play with it for a while. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

[GokuSS3]

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Wow what a review you gave there. Thanks for all your input !!!!

[jerryrigg]

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Hey guys,

I don't know if it's worth anything or not, but I was wrestling very heavily with the same issue. I've loved my original Touch Pro, and appreciated all of the things I could tweak in WinMo. I consider myself a "power user" and utilize a bunch of small business features that WinMo fulfills well.

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Sorry if I came off as a Droid fanboy. I'm really not. I'm just comparing my experience with the phones, and the reason that the Droid was the clear-cut winner in my opinion. You won't go wrong with a TP2, but you'd be well-served to check out an updated Droid and play with it for a while. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

Not to mention, the Droid is cheaper. And this is one of the best and mst accurate reviews I have seen for Droid yet. awesome!

[D/\SH]

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Hey guys,

I don't know if it's worth anything or not, but I was wrestling very heavily with the same issue. I've loved my original Touch Pro, and appreciated all of the things I could tweak in WinMo. I consider myself a "power user" and utilize a bunch of small business features that WinMo fulfills well.

That being said, I thought when I re-upped my contract, the TP2 was a foregone conclusion. The keyboard was nice, dual mic/speaker, nice display, etc.

.... but honestly, when they opened up the Droid and let me play with it.... I couldn't, in good conscience buy the TP2.

The hardware provides for so much better a seamless user experience on the Droid vs. ANY WinMo phone I've played with (and there aren't many that I haven't). It rivals the iPhone, if not equivalent in my humble opinion.

The processor is so much, much faster than the TP2, and the screen is larger, with more pixel real-estate (the largest out there now). The keyboard is NOT, and I repeat NOT nearly as bad as many have stated. Once you become used to it, it's a non-issue. It also comes pre-loaded with a 16GB microSD card installed, and with the current firmware, can support a 32GB card natively. (This will, of course, change in the future, as larger capacities will fit on the microSD chipset. The firmware will assuredly update to accommodate those capacities as they develop.)

The physical phone packs better hardware, yet is still thinner than the TP2. One of the nicest things, for me, is the glass capacitive scratch-resistant touchscreen. Wow, honestly, wow. (Check YouTube for the "scratch-test", which it passes with marvelous results.)

Now, onto the firmware/software. I purchased with the newest 2.01 firmware update already installed. I can't compare it to the previous 2.0 version, but from my understanding, the camera is miles and miles ahead of where it was (takes very nice stable pics and DVD-quality widescreen native video.) As for the operating system, be guaranteed that you'll never ever have to pay for an OS upgrade again. Verizon is allowing for any and all future system upgrades to be sent over-the-air, or done in-store at no charge. Thus, when Android 2.1 comes out, you'll in effect have a brand new phone to play with, and so on.

Now, for the 2 things I can't do without.... first, the Google Search feature. Press the onscreen microphone and speak whatever your heart's content... it is pretty much the coolest thing I've ever seen a phone do. Not only will it open up a browser, but you get a huge load of choices... shopping, navigation, contact, phone, email, location, etc. Speaking of location, it uses BOTH simultaneous GPS and wireless location managers to provide lightning fast location locks (eons faster than HTC and WinMo has ever provided me).

Secondly, the onboard navigation is worth its weight in absolute gold. It provides me super-accurate results, equal or better than my Garmin or TomTom, as Google's maps are constantly updated. You can choose various points of view to the nav system, and it will provide real-time street views if you'd like to see if your surroundings match where you actually are. Again, the ultra-high crystal resolution really knocks your socks off when using it.

Now, as for a comparison to my WinMo experience. I have found, like I did when I made my computer switch from Windows to Mac, I didn't "have" to tweak everything.... it just "worked". That's much the way I feel about my transition from WinMo to the open-source (Linux-based) Android operation system. There's nothing to "learn"... it just works (by the way, the Unix kernel that powers Android is the same Unix kernel behind MacOS... stripped down, of course, just like Apple did with the iPhone). Everything, thus far on the Android Market (for applications) is very reminiscent to the Apple approach... seamless integration from app to app. I have literally kept 20 applications running simultaneously with only half of my RAM in usage. And for those who say that apps won't close, or always "have to" run in the background, this is not exactly true. Verizon themselves provide their users FREE access to a normally "paid" app to kill any app or process task. (It is provided under the 'Verizon' tab in the Android Market. Search for the same app openly on the market, and it is not free by design.)

Speaking of apps (and development), although there are only 10,000+ apps right now (in comparison to the touted 100,000 iPhone apps), the Droid is revolutionizing the development of such open-source platform apps, and that number is DRASTICALLY increasing. Most WinMo users complain that two of the best features with WinMo are not possible with Android. First, is the ability to create and share documents.... wrong, just wrong. Search the Market. Next is the inherent ability for tethering apps to use your phone as a router. Not only is the software app available, the prominent software to do so was just "downgraded" in price to FREE.

You have to also remember that from a marketing strategy, the Droid is the first REAL attempt for Verizon to do a 180-degree turn from their "lock every VZW phone down" approach. The only, and I mean ONLY thing from Verizon that comes on the Droid is Visual Voice Mail (which is absolutely incredible to never ever have to call your voicemail again.... it downloads the actual sound file to the phone and you can store or listen to it immediately... very neat). Verizon gave up a LOT of concessions to take on this phone. No preloaded Verizon crap at all, and the one app (Visual VM) is easily uninstallable if you should choose not to keep it.

All-in-all, the end user-experience is what I'm about. The Droid provides the absolute fastest, easiest and seamless experience to date for me. Don't get me wrong, I'm an HTC lover. I think they provide a wonderful array of phones, and they will answer the Droid in similar fashion. (They already provide the ERIS Droid, but it's no Moto Droid by any stretch of the imagination.) Personally, I think they made a very bad choice in providing pretty much the same hardware specs (with a different screen display) from the switch between the TP and the TP2.

And for those tweakers out there, I know flashing your phones with custom ROMS is a reliable, if not necessary capability for the user. Well, HTC and WinMo are not the only ones out there now.... you can flash most WinMo HTC phones, you can jailbreak your iPhone.... and now, the exploit has been found to delve under the hood of the Droid... so that means yes, custom ROM's are possible, plausible and inevitable for the Moto Droid.

But then again, I understand doing that on WinMo... I did it myself (many, many times). But if you don't have to, why fix something that isn't broken?

Sorry if I came off as a Droid fanboy. I'm really not. I'm just comparing my experience with the phones, and the reason that the Droid was the clear-cut winner in my opinion. You won't go wrong with a TP2, but you'd be well-served to check out an updated Droid and play with it for a while. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

i wanna check out the motorola version of the droid.... you know anyone that wants to trade for an eris? and WOW that is a great review and walkthrough... do you mind if i take that and add mine together with your for the eris and we will make a droid series review thread?